I love Pgh, but I love Bear more!!!!

"oh Good! It's only gonna be about 4 inches"

Holy shit now I can't remember how to put it in there!!!!

God I miss hardwood

...find the hole and plug it up now!

:yay:

Great idea! And if it's done through Cafe Press or somewhere like that, there's no overhead to deal with. Lots of details to work out, of course, but I'm all for it and would be willing to help with it.

Josh sent me the link to Cafe Press, and it looks like a really streamlined process. Has anybody used them before? I wonder who owns the rights to the shirt designs, are we locked into just using them for our printing needs? I definitely like how they manage the whole process, and the wide variety of items offered. I'd also like to know what is needed upfront, it seems like not much which would make it easier to manage a trial.

According to their intellectual property rights disclaimer, the seller owns the intellectual property rights to their designs. Conversely, the seller is responsible for their content; if you rip off someone else's intellectual property (like Iron Man or Jimmy Buffett), you're liable, not Cafe Press. So, the designs could probably not use Jimmy Buffett's likeness, for example; but certainly, the BuffettWorld logo, parrotheads, etc. is fair game.

With Jimmy you will have to make sure that nothing that you sell has any thing that could like it to him so even selling something with Buffettworld on it could possibly be considered a trademark infringment as well as anything to do with Parrotthead, etc. The other thing to consider is will we sell enough of anything to make it worth while and worth the money.

Very true, there's several shirts already on the Cafe Press site that I wondered about. There are several with sayings such as 'Fins Up' and "I'm just a pirate looking at 40", not really sure how they worked around the legalities and such. The nice thing about Cafe Press is they don't actually make a certain number of shirts up at one time, they just make them as the orders come in. So, if there isn't much interest we're not left with a bunch of shirts.

CafePress provides you with an opportunity to make your designs and products eligible for placement in the CafePress Marketplace*. Your shops are automatically eligible for the CafePress Marketplace, however, you can choose to opt your shops out of eligibility for the CafePress Marketplace through the "Shop Management" screen in your account. By opting into the CafePress Marketplace you are agreeing that:

* CafePress will determine the retail price for your products that are sold through the CafePress Marketplace (the retail price you set for your products in your Basic and/or Premium shops will remain the same).
* For all products sold through the CafePress Marketplace your sole commission for those sales will be ten percent (10%) of the retail price paid by the buyer** (for products sold through your Basic and/or Premium shops you will continue to earn commissions in accordance with the Shop Pricing Policy.
* Your products will be eligible for CafePress Affiliate Program driven sales.
* In order to keep designs fresh and of high quality as we launch new products, styles, and printing technologies, solely for designs that you are selling through the CafePress Marketplace: (i) CafePress may automatically add your designs to additional products in the CafePress Marketplace; and (ii) in order to improve the printing quality, CafePress may automatically modify your designs (e.g., cleaning up JPG artifacting, adjusting colors for different printers and products, and adjusting design placement on products).